What is the difference between the douayrheims bible and. Douay rheims and king james bibles parallel editions. The douayrheims currently on the market is also not the original, 1609 version. Sep 04, 2010 the douay rheims is a little outdated imo but is definately a good one to own. Jeromes the douay rheims english translation in parallel w original commentary the entire king james version in parallel for an alternative semantic translation search capabilities tools for saving and managing phrases phrase emailer its free. The challoner revision of the douay rheims bible is still used today in many catholic churches.
The douayrheims bible 15821609 christian publishing. Douay rheims bible vs 1769 king james version bible christian. Some of the other versions made or edited by roman catholics include. Although the douay rheims is in the old english it is understandable. Among traditionalist catholics, there is even a douay rheims only movement. The douayrheims bible is a translation of the vulgate into english that was the traditional english catholic bible. King james onlyists frequently argue that the kjv is superior because it is based on the textus receptustradition, and douayrheims onlyists often argue for the douay s superiority from the fact that it is based on the vulgate.
The psalms are numbered slightly different, with the dr psalms following the septuagint and vulgate rather than the hebrew reading. It was translated by gregory martin, an oxfordtrained scholar, working in the circle of. The douayrheims provides a particularly telling counterexample. Catholic bible online douayrheims, latin vulgate, knox bible. Douayrheims onlyists often represent the douay as the only english translation of the vulgate. Do you think i should read the douay rheims instead of the kjv, and if so then why. The douay rheims bible is a translation of the vulgate into english that was the traditional english catholic bible. Lets go solely by translation, and assume the kjv was authorized by the church and still had the deuterocanonicals. Sep, 2019 the king james version compared to the geneva bible james japan posted on february 12, 2019 by james arendt september, 2019 it was the primary bible of 16th century protestantism and was the bible used by william shakespeare, oliver cromwell, john knox, john donne, and john bunyan, author of pilgrims progress. Although the douayrheims is in the old english it is understandable. I prefer the douayrheims in principle, but as a convert, certain of the psalms will just never sound right to me except in the king james version. What distinguishes it from other english translations. Uncomfortable facts about the douayrheims catholic.
I own the kjv and nkjv but would not recommend either to a catholic for daily reading. Along with the great bible and the king james version, the bishops bible was authorized to be read in church, although the geneva bible remained the favorite of the people for reading at home. Jan 03, 2011 the difference between catholic bible and king james bible is one interesting, as well as important, topic one comes across when looking at bibles. The differences between the 1599 geneva bible and the 1611 king james version of the bible are apparent. Sep 07, 2018 it seems worth checking first whether you know that the douay rheims and the kjv use a different numbering numbering system for the psalms. King james onlyists frequently argue that the kjv is superior because it is based on the textus receptus tradition, and douay rheims onlyists often argue for the douay s superiority from the fact. Latin vulgate bible with douayrheims and king james version. Douay rheims bible vs 1769 king james version bible discussion in one bread, one body catholic started by gyasi, sep 4, 2010. Jerome 342420 translated into latin from the original languages. The vulgate quickly became the bible universally used in the latin rite of the catholic church. Difference between catholic bible and king james bible. As text douay rheims bible is truest to the vulgate bible, and even after four hundred years, douay rheims bible is the most trustable edition of the bible. Use features like bookmarks, note taking and highlighting while reading the holy bible.
The numbering first diverges at psalm 9, which is one longer psalm in. Uncomfortable facts about the douayrheims catholic answers. I prefer the douay rheims in principle, but as a convert, certain of the psalms will just never sound right to me except in the king james version. Dear catholic exchange, would you be kind enough to elucidate the correct translation of luke 2. King james version and douay rheims version unexpurgated edition halcyon classics kindle edition by various. The publisher has included this preface because it gives an accurate picture regarding the origin of the douay rheims translation as opposed to the origin of the king james translation and others. Douayrheims version history the douayrheims version, which contains the apocrypha, is a translation from the latin vulgate and was first bible translation in english to be officially authorized by the catholic church. Other than the order of apocryphal books, the douayrheims was translated from the vulgate, while the king james was translated from the greek and the hebrew. The use of the rheims new testament by the translators of the king james version is discussed below. Subsequent editions of the challoner revision, of which there have. The holy word every christian should know about is found in the bible. The rheims new testament was published nearly thirty years earlier, in 1582.
Humanum genus encyclical against freemasonry 1884 copy. The douayrheims was completed in 1609, and is therefore older than the king james version, the oldest protestant translation still in use, which was published in 1611. There is one most high creator almighty, and a powerful king, and greatly to be feared, who sitteth upon his throne, and is the god of dominion. Almost all protestants seem to think that the kjv is the bomb, and i was wondering if our drv. The protestant reformation began as a movement to reform the catholic church in 1517, but created a political backlash of stricter religious oppression in countries where the church and monarchies were in control. It is a very extensive version with around 2872 pages. Latin vulgate bible with douayrheims and king james. Match the name of each book of the king james bible kjv published in 1611 with the name of the book as it appeared in the douayrheims dr bible published in 15821609. Those uncircumcised in heart will notice the difference in the two.
Furthermore, the old testament from the 1560 and 1599 geneva bible was. Conversely, the king james bible version is just one of the many versions of the holy book circulated throughout. Comparison of 9 different bibles on the name of christ in the old testament king james verse. The latin vulgate itself, the douayrheims version, the jerusalem bible and the new american bible, amongst many others. The text of the revised 1572 version carefully excluded the offending calvinistic notes and crossreferences. And in the bibles that are reprinted, they are different. But to rewrite and edit out all things they understood not was and is detrimental to humanity unto this present day. The king james version of the bible, completed in 1611, sought to be a precise translation coupled with a majestic literary style. The king james version of the bible eliminated the marginal notes that had been a popular feature for those who used them as a study guide in the 1599 geneva bible. This is an english translation of the old testament in 1625 and is part of the douay rheims collection. It should be noted, however, that the editors of the king james version were instructed by king james i of england to make sure that the translation was in harmony with the theology of the church of england. Oct 07, 2009 douay rheims bible is photographed and not reprinted from way back. King james i of england summoned the hampton court conference to create this. The douayrheims translation is a catholic translation, done by british catholic exiles in france around the same period.
Douayrheims bible is photographed and not reprinted from way back. There have been many manuscripts discovered since the time of the king james version and the douayrheims, as well as a great deal of. King james bible 1769 blayney king james bible 1909 pure cambridge edition. Jan 02, 2020 douay rheims version translation method the douay rheims bible is a translation into english of the latin vulgate bible which st. Next king james version kjv 1 james, a servant of god and of the lord jesus christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting.
It seems worth checking first whether you know that the douayrheims and the kjv use a different numbering numbering system for the psalms. Aug 30, 2007 other than the order of apocryphal books, the douay rheims was translated from the vulgate, while the king james was translated from the greek and the hebrew. St james 4, douayrheims challoner revision 1752 drc1752. We will also take a look at popular protestant bibles such as the king james. But if thou judge the law, thou art not a doer of the law, but a judge. The difference between the geneva and king james bibles. The authorized king james version, on the other hand, is the christian bible translation penned by the church of england in 1611. Giving you holy bibles the way they were originally printed. Dec 06, 2018 he died and met god, and he wasnt ready. Douay rheims is through and through a catholic bible. I heard that the king james would be a great translation if it included the apocrypha. Anyway, in the end the king james bible is through and through a protestant bible, even if it has an addendum with apocrypha included.
Catholic edition, new international version, new american bible, revised new american bible, contemporary english version, new jerusalem version, and. Why is psalm 23 so different in the kjv and douay rheims. King james version and douayrheims version unexpurgated edition halcyon classics kindle edition by various. Jul 28, 2017 the king james version of the bible, completed in 1611, sought to be a precise translation coupled with a majestic literary style. Aug 01, 2018 what is the douay rheims version of scripture. Even though it is a few years older than the kjv, it is sometimes referred to as the catholic king james bible. Jan 02, 2020 along with the great bible and the king james version, the bishops bible was authorized to be read in church, although the geneva bible remained the favorite of the people for reading at home. It was completed in 1609, making it older than the kjv, which was not. He that detracteth his brother, or he that judgeth his brother, detracteth the law, and judgeth the law. King james onlyists frequently argue that the kjv is superior because it is based on the textus receptus tradition, and douayrheims onlyists often argue for. He created her in the holy ghost, and saw her, and numbered her, and measured her. Douay rheims king james version 18 9 910 10112 111 1 114115 114115 116 116145 117146 146147 147 148150 influence on the king james version.
Sep 18, 2015 i was skimming through the douay rheims i believe the 1899 version, and verses that are commonly removed or called into question are present. I was skimming through the douayrheims i believe the 1899 version, and verses that are commonly removed or called into question are present. The king james version was permitted to stand without the contest of comparison with the vulgate or the douayrheims translation. Almost all protestants seem to think that the kjv is the bomb, and i was. Because of this, every individual who follows the christian faith should have access to the bible. Thus in england, when king james i commissioned the creation of the king james version of the bible, tolerance of protestants and puritans using the 1560 and. God said, too, let a solid vault arise amid the waters, to keep these waters apart from those. The challoner revision of the douayrheims bible is still used today in many catholic churches.
Why is psalm 23 so different in the kjv and douay rheims version. Douayrheims onlyists have not gone to some of the extremes of king james onlyists. I was skimming through the douay rheims i believe the 1899 version, and verses that are commonly removed or called into question are present. The king james version compared to the geneva bible james japan posted on february 12, 2019 by james arendt september, 2019 it was the primary bible of 16th century protestantism and was the bible used by william shakespeare, oliver cromwell, john knox, john donne, and john bunyan, author of pilgrims progress. Jeromes the douayrheims english translation in parallel w original commentary the entire king james version in parallel for an alternative semantic translation search capabilities tools for saving and managing phrases phrase emailer its free. However, the douay rheims bible contains sentences that are not even found in the king james bible, so it baffles me why they would not see the older latin vulgate as more authoritive when it comes to translation of scriptures, then the king james bible whose texts dates back only to the middle ages. Parallel latin vulgate bible and douayrheims bible and king james bible. Which is a better english translation for orthodoxy. Compare translations sidebyside or read the full text with notes. However, they do often parallel king james onlyists in arguing the superiority of their preferred translation due to the. This is the third official english translation of the bible and was conceived due to issues against the two earlier translations. King james version is protestant and is missing 7 books, as all protestant bibles do.
Pastor considers this obscure english translation, its. The protestants had every right to revolt from the inquisition. Ronald knoxs translation of the bible is also based on the vulgate. Why doesnt the catholic church recognize the king james. King james version and douayrheims version unexpurgated edition halcyon. The douay rheims is a little outdated imo but is definately a good one to own. James the servant of god, and of our lord jesus christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting. The douay rheims currently on the market is also not the original, 1609 version.
For example, they do not claim, as do some king james onlyists, that their preferred translation was made under divine inspiration. Douay rheims bible vs 1769 king james version bible. The kjv may not be approved as a catholic bible to read. Download it once and read it on your kindle device, pc, phones or tablets. Douayrheims and king james bibles parallel editions. Even then, the douay is not simply a translation of jeromes original.
Feb 01, 2002 douay rheims onlyists have not gone to some of the extremes of king james onlyists. Therefore the catholic church approves and proclaims that, out of all the existing english editions, now in circulation, douay rheims bible is the most authentic edition of the bible. A catholic translation of the same era is the douay rheims version drv, which is based on the churchs latin vulgate. The last page of ii maccabees, in the 1611 king james reads, end of apocrypha. The king james version compared to the geneva bible. Although retaining the title douayrheims bible, the challoner revision was a new version, tending to take as its base text the king james version rigorously checked and extensively adjusted for improved readability and consistency with the clementine edition of. Taking away from scripture new testament but the roman catholic bible is a perverted alexandrian egyptian bible, not a preserved antiochian bible, like the king james. Although retaining the title douayrheims bible, the challoner revision was a new version, tending to take as its base text the king james version rigorously checked and extensively adjusted for improved readability and consistency with the clementine edition of the vulgate. It was completed in 1609, making it older than the kjv, which was not published until 1611.
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